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The result was delete. North America1000 10:29, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ayn Cates Sullivan[edit]

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Fails WP:N. Has won many awards, none of them notable. Has written many books, none of them notable. Looking for sources gives me in GNews one press release, and one lengthy interview with "Total Prestige Magazine"[1], which is a shady publication which seems to have a habit of giving excessively praiseful attention to otherwise completely unknown people. E.g. the cover of the issue before the Sullivan issue was for "Trevor Perkin", CEO of "HDM Coatings". Complete lack of all notability or "prestige"[2], not the kind of CEO any actual, real luxury magazine would put on their cover or give a lengthy interview. This has all the hallmarks of a paid for publication to give people exposure and fake notability, not a genuine reliable source giving voluntary attention to a notable person.

The 79 Google hits for Ayn Cates Sullivan[3] are extremely low for a supposedly bestselling American fiction author with many books and awards. Looking for her original name doesn't help[4]. She is a self-published author who has won some very minor awards (niche awards from organisations which give out many dozens of similar awards), which have not gotten any attention in the press. Fram (talk) 09:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Women, and United States of America. Fram (talk) 09:54, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Woeful author self promotion at its worst. Sourcing is awful - Kirkus Reviews, for instance, sells reviews - and I suspect many of these marginal 'awards' would be obtained on a similar basis. Agree with nom about search - and lack of independent reviews, coverage and comment on this self-published author (not in itself a bad thing, just for WP notability purpopses!) all point to an exceptional lack of notability. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:06, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Smacks of self-promotion. Agree that most awards are non-notable. Oaktree b (talk) 14:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - This article is irremediably non-neutral. This does not mean that the subject is or is not notable, but this article is a distraction from any effort to see whether she is notable. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:08, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Her books have been reviewed by Kirkus and Publishers Weekly. Kirkus does allow paid reviews, but they're not always positive and I don't know how to tell if hers was paid or organic. It's a weak pass of WP:NAUTHOR. pburka (talk) 19:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Kirkus has two types of reviews with the paid type having the word "Indie" in them, and this is that type. So she only has two book reviews (I searched extensively) and one of them is paid, so she fails WP:AUTHOR. CT55555 (talk) 03:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.